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Water Temps

Post by dbarr15 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:17 pm

Why is there no water temp. information on the USGS reporting? It would seem to be something useful. to know.

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Re: Water Temps

Post by Fishybig » Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:34 pm

Gr8 question!!! But would it be reliable if it were there?

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Post by barkeater » Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:52 pm

A few years ago I remember there was at least one temperature monitor for a NJ river but the one I'm thinking about was discontinued due to lack of funding.

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Post by Troutman » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:40 pm

be nice to have
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Post by Jaybird » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am

South branch at 37cfs no bueno .

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Post by Rusty Spinner » Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:41 am

They are too expensive to maintain without a supporting funder. I tried many times to have TU fund one for either the Musky or the SBR gauge but nobody seemed interested. Some stations do have them such as Spruce Run in Glen Gardner, the Pequannock at two sites, etc.
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Re: Water Temps

Post by lightenup » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:57 am

Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:41 am
They are too expensive to maintain without a supporting funder. I tried many times to have TU fund one for either the Musky or the SBR gauge but nobody seemed interested. Some stations do have them such as Spruce Run in Glen Gardner, the Pequannock at two sites, etc.
That temp in GG goes up and down like a yo-yo . It reaches 70 long before the SBR but drops back to the low 60's at night. Looking at it recently you would think it isn't measuring water temps but air temps..It hit 92 yesterday. Maybe the Creek is too low and it is measuring air temps.

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Post by coaltrout » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:45 pm

On USGS you can customize the table. Below link shows Temperature as one of the columns, and you can see which gage has temperature recordings. I also included Gage height/streamflow.

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nj/nwis/curr ... _selection

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Post by Rusty Spinner » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:39 pm

lightenup wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:57 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:41 am
They are too expensive to maintain without a supporting funder. I tried many times to have TU fund one for either the Musky or the SBR gauge but nobody seemed interested. Some stations do have them such as Spruce Run in Glen Gardner, the Pequannock at two sites, etc.
That temp in GG goes up and down like a yo-yo . It reaches 70 long before the SBR but drops back to the low 60's at night. Looking at it recently you would think it isn't measuring water temps but air temps..It hit 92 yesterday. Maybe the Creek is too low and it is measuring air temps.
Yup, sounds like the temperature probe is sticking out or too close to the water's surface at that USGS gauge station. No chance that water is hitting 80 let along 92 :shock: :)
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Post by martalus » Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:52 pm

The Potomac at Little Falls hit just over 90 yesterday evening! At that temp, its too warm to even fish for smallies! I dont know who maintains the temp guage, but I find it very useful when deciding when to target bass, shad, etc. Maryland seems to have more temperature guages as big rivers like the potomac have them as do tailwaters such as Little Hunting creek, Little Gunpowder, etc.

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/md/nwis/uv?site_no=01646500

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Post by lightenup » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:27 pm

Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:39 pm
lightenup wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:57 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:41 am
They are too expensive to maintain without a supporting funder. I tried many times to have TU fund one for either the Musky or the SBR gauge but nobody seemed interested. Some stations do have them such as Spruce Run in Glen Gardner, the Pequannock at two sites, etc.
That temp in GG goes up and down like a yo-yo . It reaches 70 long before the SBR but drops back to the low 60's at night. Looking at it recently you would think it isn't measuring water temps but air temps..It hit 92 yesterday. Maybe the Creek is too low and it is measuring air temps.
Yup, sounds like the temperature probe is sticking out or too close to the water's surface at that USGS gauge station. No chance that water is hitting 80 let along 92 :shock: :)
https://natwebsdww02.cr.usgs.gov/nwiswe ... 11..0..gif

Here is a copy of the GG Spruce Run gauge temps....not very believable.

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Re: Water Temps

Post by BiggerThomas » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:58 pm

Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:39 pm
lightenup wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:57 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:41 am
They are too expensive to maintain without a supporting funder. I tried many times to have TU fund one for either the Musky or the SBR gauge but nobody seemed interested. Some stations do have them such as Spruce Run in Glen Gardner, the Pequannock at two sites, etc.
That temp in GG goes up and down like a yo-yo . It reaches 70 long before the SBR but drops back to the low 60's at night. Looking at it recently you would think it isn't measuring water temps but air temps..It hit 92 yesterday. Maybe the Creek is too low and it is measuring air temps.
Yup, sounds like the temperature probe is sticking out or too close to the water's surface at that USGS gauge station. No chance that water is hitting 80 let along 92 :shock: :)
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Re: Water Temps

Post by dbarr15 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:46 am

Just checked the USGS site for the SBR and there is a temperature graph! Is this new?

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Post by BiggerThomas » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:02 am

Next week's overnight lows look like they'll be in the mid to low 60s while daytime highs will be lower 80s...I'd love to get out for a week in August if possible. Temps will tell!
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Re: Water Temps

Post by lightenup » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:56 am

dbarr15 wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:46 am
Just checked the USGS site for the SBR and there is a temperature graph! Is this new?
Yes I saw it too. Look how thw temp fell as the levels rose. The rain helped last night. Also I bet the sun going down had something to do with it. :)

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Re: Water Temps

Post by barkeater » Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:27 am

Just checked the USGS site for the SBR and there is a temperature graph! Is this new?
Yippee!

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Post by joe_panella » Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:54 pm

BiggerThomas wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:02 am
Next week's overnight lows look like they'll be in the mid to low 60s while daytime highs will be lower 80s...I'd love to get out for a week in August if possible. Temps will tell!
for quite a few years now August has been really fishable. My childhood memories, especially fb double sessions in hs, were pretty brutal August's.

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Re: Water Temps

Post by barkeater » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:09 pm

In addition to temps the SB now has assessment of chlorophyll and phycocyanin florescence and relative florescence. Does anybody know their usage? Chlorophyll I assume could be used to assess algae in the water however the phycocyanin I am unfamiliar with.















i am not familiar with.

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Re: Water Temps

Post by Pete » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:41 pm

It's a component of algae.

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Re: Water Temps

Post by barkeater » Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:19 pm

Thanks.

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