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Re: Access question

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:56 pm
by PortMurrayAng
Thanks Rusty. That's what I always thought. I posted the signs along part of the musky and got into a conversation with a guy about it. Just wanted to be clear (and right) ;)

"No. In NJ, the landowners own the bottom of the river's bed, so you cannot trespass. It is not the same as wading the West Branch in NY/PA, for example, where everything below high water mark is okay to wade."

Thanks for the new vocab word: thalweg. Sounds old or middle English - or middle earth. I'll look it up in the ol' OED.

"Use this site to determine legal ownership. Unless otherwise deed stated, the owners will own "to the thread of the thalweg" which is not mid-point of the river at all times. The thalweg is the deepest part of the channel and it meanders within a river's banks side to side."
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Re: Access question

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:04 pm
by Troutman
I have fished on many posted private property rivers & lakes without issue. Just be courteous & ask. I usually just go to the house & knock. Ask for permission. I tell them I'm a C&R angler. I just wanted to see if I can get your permission. 90% of the time they say no problem. Dont litter & destroy their property. Heck there no guy I know on the low Musky behind a dam that I bring a 6 pack to in the summer every time I fish there. Just be respectful & dont try to get over

Re: Access question

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:04 pm
by BiggerThomas
Troutman wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:04 pm
I have fished on many posted private property rivers & lakes without issue. Just be courteous & ask. I usually just go to the house & knock. Ask for permission. I tell them I'm a C&R angler. I just wanted to see if I can get your permission. 90% of the time they say no problem. Dont litter & destroy their property. Heck there no guy I know on the low Musky behind a dam that I bring a 6 pack to in the summer every time I fish there. Just be respectful & dont try to get over
Good old common sense in action--nice job Troutman.

Re: Access question

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:26 pm
by coaltrout
Troutman wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:04 pm
I have fished on many posted private property rivers & lakes without issue. Just be courteous & ask. I usually just go to the house & knock. Ask for permission. I tell them I'm a C&R angler. I just wanted to see if I can get your permission. 90% of the time they say no problem. Dont litter & destroy their property. Heck there no guy I know on the low Musky behind a dam that I bring a 6 pack to in the summer every time I fish there. Just be respectful & dont try to get over
dude I can hardly walk 50 feet from the stocking points off bridges, you expect me to walk another 80 feet to someone's front door? :mrgreen: geez!

Re: Access question

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:04 pm
by Troutman
coaltrout wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:26 pm
Troutman wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:04 pm
I have fished on many posted private property rivers & lakes without issue. Just be courteous & ask. I usually just go to the house & knock. Ask for permission. I tell them I'm a C&R angler. I just wanted to see if I can get your permission. 90% of the time they say no problem. Dont litter & destroy their property. Heck there no guy I know on the low Musky behind a dam that I bring a 6 pack to in the summer every time I fish there. Just be respectful & dont try to get over
dude I can hardly walk 50 feet from the stocking points off bridges, you expect me to walk another 80 feet to someone's front door? :mrgreen: geez!
:lol: :lol: :lol: . I cant fish @ those dump points. Im afraid of those bucket boys snagging my waders :o :o

Re: Access question

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:08 pm
by Troutman
BiggerThomas wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:04 pm
Troutman wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:04 pm
I have fished on many posted private property rivers & lakes without issue. Just be courteous & ask. I usually just go to the house & knock. Ask for permission. I tell them I'm a C&R angler. I just wanted to see if I can get your permission. 90% of the time they say no problem. Dont litter & destroy their property. Heck there no guy I know on the low Musky behind a dam that I bring a 6 pack to in the summer every time I fish there. Just be respectful & dont try to get over
Good old common sense in action--nice job Troutman.
Thx. But its only common sense or courtesy....I dont get people sometimes

Re: Access question

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:25 am
by coaltrout
Troutman wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:04 pm
coaltrout wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:26 pm
Troutman wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:04 pm
I have fished on many posted private property rivers & lakes without issue. Just be courteous & ask. I usually just go to the house & knock. Ask for permission. I tell them I'm a C&R angler. I just wanted to see if I can get your permission. 90% of the time they say no problem. Dont litter & destroy their property. Heck there no guy I know on the low Musky behind a dam that I bring a 6 pack to in the summer every time I fish there. Just be respectful & dont try to get over
dude I can hardly walk 50 feet from the stocking points off bridges, you expect me to walk another 80 feet to someone's front door? :mrgreen: geez!
:lol: :lol: :lol: . I cant fish @ those dump points. Im afraid of those bucket boys snagging my waders :o :o
That's why I have a chainmail layer around my waders :geek:

Re: Access question

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:42 am
by Troutman
coaltrout wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:25 am
Troutman wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:04 pm
coaltrout wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:26 pm


dude I can hardly walk 50 feet from the stocking points off bridges, you expect me to walk another 80 feet to someone's front door? :mrgreen: geez!
:lol: :lol: :lol: . I cant fish @ those dump points. Im afraid of those bucket boys snagging my waders :o :o
That's why I have a chainmail layer around my waders :geek:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Access question

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 11:26 am
by Rusty Spinner
PortMurrayAng wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:56 pm
Thanks Rusty.
Thanks for the new vocab word: thalweg. Sounds old or middle English - or middle earth. I'll look it up in the ol' OED.
It's a German work loosely translated to "river valley". It is a key word in my work, but a completely unknown word outside of river restoration. All of our designs are about enhancing the thalweg through riffles, runs and pools.

Re: Access question

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:09 pm
by garden hackle
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