Brookies
Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 9:25 pm
I fished a spot I hadn't in while. Found these little guys, nice to see.
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They were gorging on Sulphur emergers, and any other bug that came into view, aggressive and unwary! This was on the SBR, where? I'm not telling.
I've anecdotally been hearing from many anglers catching both native brookies and wild browns in the upper SBR and Musky. I'm thinking the stocking changes are somewhat that reason if we are seeing an increase.
Where does the upper SBR officially start?Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 amI've anecdotally been hearing from many anglers catching both native brookies and wild browns in the upper SBR and Musky. I'm thinking the stocking changes are somewhat that reason if we are seeing an increase.
One would think at the outflow of budd lake where it's super tiny, but what do I know??lightenup wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:42 amWhere does the upper SBR officially start?Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 amI've anecdotally been hearing from many anglers catching both native brookies and wild browns in the upper SBR and Musky. I'm thinking the stocking changes are somewhat that reason if we are seeing an increase.
Sorry, the separation between upper and lower SBR is where?Fishybig wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:28 amOne would think at the outflow of budd lake where it's super tiny, but what do I know??lightenup wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:42 amWhere does the upper SBR officially start?Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am
I've anecdotally been hearing from many anglers catching both native brookies and wild browns in the upper SBR and Musky. I'm thinking the stocking changes are somewhat that reason if we are seeing an increase.
I guess that could be up for debate?? Some would consider the high bridge falls to be the end of the upper....I personally think clinton falls is the separator, where you get warm water intrusions from spruce run...just an opinion, maybe theres an official answer??
Maybe up from Long Valley, where it is considered a WTS?Fishybig wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:41 pmI guess that could be up for debate?? Some would consider the high bridge falls to be the end of the upper....I personally think clinton falls is the separator, where you get warm water intrusions from spruce run...just an opinion, maybe theres an official answer??
These fish were caught in stocked water. Feeding right next to fresh rainbows..Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 amThere is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.
Yup, and that is very normal from the first tributary about 80 yards below Budd Lake outflow down to the Solitude Dam. Some natives and wild browns are even below that dam, but they spawn and bail out in warm water to local tribs. Shannon's private water regularly sees native brookies and it is stocked. Same with the clubs upstream. Same for the Musky and many other rivers.lightenup wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:16 amThese fish were caught in stocked water. Feeding right next to fresh rainbows..Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 amThere is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.
Except when I got there and catch stocked rainbowsRusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 amThere is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.
Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:57 amYup, and that is very normal from the first tributary about 80 yards below Budd Lake outflow down to the Solitude Dam. Some natives and wild browns are even below that dam, but they spawn and bail out in warm water to local tribs. Shannon's private water regularly sees native brookies and it is stocked. Same with the clubs upstream. Same for the Musky and many other rivers.lightenup wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:16 amThese fish were caught in stocked water. Feeding right next to fresh rainbows..Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 amThere is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.
I thought only rainbows fed next to rainbows, and brookies only feed next to brookies, and browns only feed next to suckers?Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:57 amYup, and that is very normal from the first tributary about 80 yards below Budd Lake outflow down to the Solitude Dam. Some natives and wild browns are even below that dam, but they spawn and bail out in warm water to local tribs. Shannon's private water regularly sees native brookies and it is stocked. Same with the clubs upstream. Same for the Musky and many other rivers.lightenup wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:16 amThese fish were caught in stocked water. Feeding right next to fresh rainbows..Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 amThere is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.