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Brookies

Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 9:25 pm
by lightenup
I fished a spot I hadn't in while. Found these little guys, nice to see.
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Fought like a cell phone on vibrate..

Re: Brookies

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:11 am
by cappy
I caught a few myself this weekend, no pics sorry. However your pics are nice, thank you.

Re: Brookies

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:17 pm
by Rusty Spinner
Healthy looking fish!

Re: Brookies

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:00 pm
by lightenup
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:17 pm
Healthy looking fish!
They were gorging on Sulphur emergers, and any other bug that came into view, aggressive and unwary! This was on the SBR, where? I'm not telling.

Re: Brookies

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am
by Rusty Spinner
lightenup wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:00 pm
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:17 pm
Healthy looking fish!
They were gorging on Sulphur emergers, and any other bug that came into view, aggressive and unwary! This was on the SBR, where? I'm not telling.
I've anecdotally been hearing from many anglers catching both native brookies and wild browns in the upper SBR and Musky. I'm thinking the stocking changes are somewhat that reason if we are seeing an increase.

Re: Brookies

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:42 am
by lightenup
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am
lightenup wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:00 pm
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:17 pm
Healthy looking fish!
They were gorging on Sulphur emergers, and any other bug that came into view, aggressive and unwary! This was on the SBR, where? I'm not telling.
I've anecdotally been hearing from many anglers catching both native brookies and wild browns in the upper SBR and Musky. I'm thinking the stocking changes are somewhat that reason if we are seeing an increase.
Where does the upper SBR officially start?

Re: Brookies

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:28 am
by Fishybig
lightenup wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:42 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am
lightenup wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:00 pm


They were gorging on Sulphur emergers, and any other bug that came into view, aggressive and unwary! This was on the SBR, where? I'm not telling.
I've anecdotally been hearing from many anglers catching both native brookies and wild browns in the upper SBR and Musky. I'm thinking the stocking changes are somewhat that reason if we are seeing an increase.
Where does the upper SBR officially start?
One would think at the outflow of budd lake where it's super tiny, but what do I know??

Re: Brookies

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:06 pm
by lightenup
Fishybig wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:28 am
lightenup wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:42 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am


I've anecdotally been hearing from many anglers catching both native brookies and wild browns in the upper SBR and Musky. I'm thinking the stocking changes are somewhat that reason if we are seeing an increase.
Where does the upper SBR officially start?
One would think at the outflow of budd lake where it's super tiny, but what do I know??
Sorry, the separation between upper and lower SBR is where?

Re: Brookies

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:41 pm
by Fishybig
lightenup wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:06 pm
Fishybig wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:28 am
lightenup wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:42 am


Where does the upper SBR officially start?
One would think at the outflow of budd lake where it's super tiny, but what do I know??
Sorry, the separation between upper and lower SBR is where?
I guess that could be up for debate?? Some would consider the high bridge falls to be the end of the upper....I personally think clinton falls is the separator, where you get warm water intrusions from spruce run...just an opinion, maybe theres an official answer??

Re: Brookies

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:48 pm
by lightenup
Fishybig wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:41 pm
lightenup wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:06 pm
Fishybig wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:28 am


One would think at the outflow of budd lake where it's super tiny, but what do I know??
Sorry, the separation between upper and lower SBR is where?
I guess that could be up for debate?? Some would consider the high bridge falls to be the end of the upper....I personally think clinton falls is the separator, where you get warm water intrusions from spruce run...just an opinion, maybe theres an official answer??
Maybe up from Long Valley, where it is considered a WTS?

Re: Brookies

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:13 pm
by Jaybird
Always considered above Vernoy bridge the upper south branch . But that's just my own line .

Re: Brookies

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:22 pm
by martalus
for me it was always above the slow moving water in downtown Califon as there is more natural spawning above there in tribs and even in main river. Below there, i assume spawning is mostly in tribs.

Re: Brookies

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:15 pm
by BiggerThomas
lightenup wrote:
Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:42 am
Where does the upper SBR officially start?
Can we stop with the philosophical questions? I come here to decompress. :lol:

Re: Brookies

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:14 am
by 46er
The upper is wherever you are standing and looking upstream, turn around and its the lower. :mrgreen:

Re: Brookies

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 am
by Rusty Spinner
There is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.

Re: Brookies

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:16 am
by lightenup
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 am
There is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.
These fish were caught in stocked water. Feeding right next to fresh rainbows..

Re: Brookies

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:57 am
by Rusty Spinner
lightenup wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:16 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 am
There is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.
These fish were caught in stocked water. Feeding right next to fresh rainbows..
Yup, and that is very normal from the first tributary about 80 yards below Budd Lake outflow down to the Solitude Dam. Some natives and wild browns are even below that dam, but they spawn and bail out in warm water to local tribs. Shannon's private water regularly sees native brookies and it is stocked. Same with the clubs upstream. Same for the Musky and many other rivers.

Re: Brookies

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:13 pm
by Drossi
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 am
There is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.
Except when I got there and catch stocked rainbows :shock:

Re: Brookies

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:16 pm
by martalus
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:57 am
lightenup wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:16 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 am
There is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.
These fish were caught in stocked water. Feeding right next to fresh rainbows..
Yup, and that is very normal from the first tributary about 80 yards below Budd Lake outflow down to the Solitude Dam. Some natives and wild browns are even below that dam, but they spawn and bail out in warm water to local tribs. Shannon's private water regularly sees native brookies and it is stocked. Same with the clubs upstream. Same for the Musky and many other rivers.

Hmmm, I know there are wild browns in the tribs below Solitude (Beaver Brook, Capoolong etc), but dont know of any wild brookie tribs below the dam.

Re: Brookies

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:10 pm
by lightenup
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:57 am
lightenup wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:16 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:26 am
There is no right or wrong answer. I tend to think of trout water versus non trout or seasonal trout so for me, the upper is above the Solitude Dam in the KLG and everything downstream is the lower river. But when I said "upper", I really was talking about from the Budd Lake outflow down to old route 24 in Long Valley which is the WTS section and unstocked. That 9+ miles is going to just get better and better as more of the catch and keep crowds realize the upper 9 miles aren't stocked any longer.
These fish were caught in stocked water. Feeding right next to fresh rainbows..
Yup, and that is very normal from the first tributary about 80 yards below Budd Lake outflow down to the Solitude Dam. Some natives and wild browns are even below that dam, but they spawn and bail out in warm water to local tribs. Shannon's private water regularly sees native brookies and it is stocked. Same with the clubs upstream. Same for the Musky and many other rivers.
I thought only rainbows fed next to rainbows, and brookies only feed next to brookies, and browns only feed next to suckers? 8-) :? :D ;) ;) ;) ;)