Streams have been completely changed..

[NJAngler]

Hunterdon Streams got pounded. Never seen such destruction. New pools created, old ones now a streambed. Stream channel used to be here now its over there. Just crazy. Capoolong and Mulhockaway were just ravaged. Wild browns are still there though and some dandy pools have been created. Some quite deep. Mother nature is always the best stream improvement plan. lol

[BiggerThomas]

As strange as it might sound, NJ Angler has provided a bedrock of normalcy, predictability, and structure for me over the years: no matter what the cosmos throws at us--earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods--Mark is there, catching wild browns, no matter what.

[lightenup]

Why can't I see the pictures???

[SBRtool]

Wish I could see the pics too but I can't see them either.

[Razorbacker]

the pics come and go. I saw them the first time I opened the post, then they were gone, then back, now gone again.

[46er]

Irene was really bad, this may be worse. No pics, just a minus sign -.

[Rusty Spinner]

I got a call from a landowner adjacent to a section of the Capoolong we restored for the Division several years ago. The river widened itself by up to 20'. That is amazing for a river that averages maybe 20' at its widest. Ida is now the flood of record for many watersheds here in trout country, NJ. Amazing when you think Irene was the flood of record for most until this last hurricane. We had just completed work on the lower Lopatcong when we had four out of bank events in less than 12 days (Fred, Henri, random thunderstorm that stalled, and then Ida). Ida had flows over the banks and 4'-5' high over those banks. The active channel during the flood was over 100' wide. The Lopat in low flows is as narrow as 2'-4'. Let that sink in for a bit.....

[lightenup]

I got a call from a landowner adjacent to a section of the Capoolong we restored for the Division several years ago. The river widened itself by up to 20'. That is amazing for a river that averages maybe 20' at its widest. Ida is now the flood of record for many watersheds here in trout country, NJ. Amazing when you think Irene was the flood of record for most until this last hurricane. We had just completed work on the lower Lopatcong when we had four out of bank events in less than 12 days (Fred, Henri, random thunderstorm that stalled, and then Ida). Ida had flows over the banks and 4'-5' high over those banks. The active channel during the flood was over 100' wide. The Lopat in low flows is as narrow as 2'-4'. Let that sink in for a bit.....

The brand new retaining wall next to Hunt Place in Glen Gardner is destroyed...

[Rusty Spinner]

I got a call from a landowner adjacent to a section of the Capoolong we restored for the Division several years ago. The river widened itself by up to 20'. That is amazing for a river that averages maybe 20' at its widest. Ida is now the flood of record for many watersheds here in trout country, NJ. Amazing when you think Irene was the flood of record for most until this last hurricane. We had just completed work on the lower Lopatcong when we had four out of bank events in less than 12 days (Fred, Henri, random thunderstorm that stalled, and then Ida). Ida had flows over the banks and 4'-5' high over those banks. The active channel during the flood was over 100' wide. The Lopat in low flows is as narrow as 2'-4'. Let that sink in for a bit.....

The brand new retaining wall next to Hunt Place in Glen Gardner is destroyed...

Where the quarry did their SEP (Secondary Environmental Project)? The small park in Glen Gardner?

[NJAngler]

Try this link to see photos

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GPTrvuoy58nyz5v56

[Rusty Spinner]

Try this link to see photos

https://photos.app.goo.gl/GPTrvuoy58nyz5v56

That link worked as does your VC link. Thanks for sharing. I'll post video from the lower Lopat shortly, but I don't have Ida video but rather Henri video. Ida was worse, but I wasn't there that night to film it.

[lightenup]

I got a call from a landowner adjacent to a section of the Capoolong we restored for the Division several years ago. The river widened itself by up to 20'. That is amazing for a river that averages maybe 20' at its widest. Ida is now the flood of record for many watersheds here in trout country, NJ. Amazing when you think Irene was the flood of record for most until this last hurricane. We had just completed work on the lower Lopatcong when we had four out of bank events in less than 12 days (Fred, Henri, random thunderstorm that stalled, and then Ida). Ida had flows over the banks and 4'-5' high over those banks. The active channel during the flood was over 100' wide. The Lopat in low flows is as narrow as 2'-4'. Let that sink in for a bit.....

The brand new retaining wall next to Hunt Place in Glen Gardner is destroyed...

Where the quarry did their SEP (Secondary Environmental Project)? The small park in Glen Gardner?

Yup.. The one we were speaking about last fall...it bowed a bit outwards in the middle and that is where it failed...

[NJAngler]

Bunch of rain last night out this way in Warren and Northampton Counties

[Rusty Spinner]

The brand new retaining wall next to Hunt Place in Glen Gardner is destroyed...

Where the quarry did their SEP (Secondary Environmental Project)? The small park in Glen Gardner?

Yup.. The one we were speaking about last fall...it bowed a bit outwards in the middle and that is where it failed...

I stopped by late last week. All three structures, two cross veins for the heads of pools and the stone wall have all failed. The engineer has NEVER once done a successful stream restoration project. Here is another failure and a bad one at that. I spoke with the Division and they don't know what will happen, so this may be like this forever more. The cross vein boulders are not large enough and were not dug into the stream bed nor was the bed brought up on the upstream side which allowed them to get undercut and the structure failed at that point. The lower cross vein never made any sense to me because they did not build a pool below that structure nor did they need to stabilize the channel there. The wall should have looked more like a stadium than the vertical wall they built, another major mistake that shows a total lack of understanding of river restoration. Time will tell if this get repaired as it should or not.....

[lightenup]

Where the quarry did their SEP (Secondary Environmental Project)? The small park in Glen Gardner?

Yup.. The one we were speaking about last fall...it bowed a bit outwards in the middle and that is where it failed...

I stopped by late last week. All three structures, two cross veins for the heads of pools and the stone wall have all failed. The engineer has NEVER once done a successful stream restoration project. Here is another failure and a bad one at that. I spoke with the Division and they don't know what will happen, so this may be like this forever more. The cross vein boulders are not large enough and were not dug into the stream bed nor was the bed brought up on the upstream side which allowed them to get undercut and the structure failed at that point. The lower cross vein never made any sense to me because they did not build a pool below that structure nor did they need to stabilize the channel there. The wall should have looked more like a stadium than the vertical wall they built, another major mistake that shows a total lack of understanding of river restoration. Time will tell if this get repaired as it should or not.....

The poor people in the blue house.....
Hell, I'm a layman and said the wall wouldn't hold up...Heavy blocks become much lighter when the get submerged..

[Fishybig]

Yup.. The one we were speaking about last fall...it bowed a bit outwards in the middle and that is where it failed...

I stopped by late last week. All three structures, two cross veins for the heads of pools and the stone wall have all failed. The engineer has NEVER once done a successful stream restoration project. Here is another failure and a bad one at that. I spoke with the Division and they don't know what will happen, so this may be like this forever more. The cross vein boulders are not large enough and were not dug into the stream bed nor was the bed brought up on the upstream side which allowed them to get undercut and the structure failed at that point. The lower cross vein never made any sense to me because they did not build a pool below that structure nor did they need to stabilize the channel there. The wall should have looked more like a stadium than the vertical wall they built, another major mistake that shows a total lack of understanding of river restoration. Time will tell if this get repaired as it should or not.....

The poor people in the blue house.....
Hell, I'm a layman and said the wall wouldn't hold up...Heavy blocks become much lighter when the get submerged..

Sounds like it was as well thought out as beach replenishment!! Although, a good job in this situation may have lasted longer than that lost cause....

[dbarr15]

I have to agree! Went to the upper section of KLG for the first time in about 3 years and was I shocked. The "roadway" of course is closed, which is great as far as I am concerned but did not realize the damage that the flood must have done to it. The river itself seems to be in good shape BUT the lack of fish was concerning. The high temps of the summer must have really devastated the population.

[BiggerThomas]

I have to agree! Went to the upper section of KLG for the first time in about 3 years and was I shocked. The "roadway" of course is closed, which is great as far as I am concerned but did not realize the damage that the flood must have done to it. The river itself seems to be in good shape BUT the lack of fish was concerning. The high temps of the summer must have really devastated the population.

Agreed. I haven't been trout fishing in quite a while (instead, I have been hitting warm-water species). I'll head back to trout fishing next week and then will really be into it after the fall stocking. BT