she's going down for the count
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:01 pm
1 of my favorite spots too !!!!
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Imo taking that dam down & the Columbia river down now will change the eco-system for the entire river
Thats sad news to know there isnt going to be any fish habitat restoration being doneRusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:02 pmI've been highly critical of this dam removal for the simple reason that the stated goal for the team was to provide fish passage for anadromous fish. So why zero fish habitat restoration and only dam removal and bank sloping? Too many bad engineers with no background in fisheries or fish habitat. I didn't bother bidding on it for this reason. That and this will spill over to next year.
There's like 1 km / 3000ft of lake right? Ideally, in addition to the dam removal, the old lake area needs some support? What does that involve, re-foresting the banks and digging a more defined creek channel?Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:02 pmI've been highly critical of this dam removal for the simple reason that the stated goal for the team was to provide fish passage for anadromous fish. So why zero fish habitat restoration and only dam removal and bank sloping? Too many bad engineers with no background in fisheries or fish habitat. I didn't bother bidding on it for this reason. That and this will spill over to next year.
Grading the banks around the dam and that's it. No in stream habitat, no enhanced riffles, runs or pools. Just one big run is what I envision it being based off the engineering plans that were out for construction bidding last year. And yes, reforestation of the riparian corridor affected by the lake lowering from removing the dam. This is happening far too often. Any of you that knows the East Ave remnant dam in Hackettstown on the upper Musky knows it is a popular stocking point and is heavily fished. They removed that remnant dam recently and there is no pool left, so the fish will just immediately swim downstream until they find suitable habitat. It literally would have taken my operator one to two extra hours to build a proper pool there as part of the project.coaltrout wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 9:07 pmThere's like 1 km / 3000ft of lake right? Ideally, in addition to the dam removal, the old lake area needs some support? What does that involve, re-foresting the banks and digging a more defined creek channel?Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 5:02 pmI've been highly critical of this dam removal for the simple reason that the stated goal for the team was to provide fish passage for anadromous fish. So why zero fish habitat restoration and only dam removal and bank sloping? Too many bad engineers with no background in fisheries or fish habitat. I didn't bother bidding on it for this reason. That and this will spill over to next year.
The town that owns it did some major rehabilitation some years back and realize they were going to need constant engineering and repairs and would always be carrying the liability, so they toured some Musky dam removals with us and came to the conclusion they wanted theirs removed as well.
Maybe, I'm not sure who is doing the plantings. But there wouldn't be anything else. It's in the North Jersey chapter's territory.