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C&R

Post by lightenup » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:13 pm

I fished the KLG tonight. I arrived at 6:45 PM, the water temp was 68 degrees exactly. It's 85 tomorrow. Stay home until it cools off.

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Re: C&R

Post by Rusty Spinner » Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:13 am

lightenup wrote:
Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:13 pm
I fished the KLG tonight. I arrived at 6:45 PM, the water temp was 68 degrees exactly. It's 85 tomorrow. Stay home until it cools off.
I agree, it's time to carry your stream thermometer and give 'em a break on hot days. It's even too hot to bother to run up to the cold waters of the Catskills because hatches are always light on hot, sunny days.
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Re: C&R

Post by CheeseburgerFly » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:02 am

My favorite is when you run into people fishing at the Gorge during the hottest parts of the summer and they are excited to tell you what a great day of fishing they had.

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Post by Rusty Spinner » Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:54 am

CheeseburgerFly wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:02 am
My favorite is when you run into people fishing at the Gorge during the hottest parts of the summer and they are excited to tell you what a great day of fishing they had.
I hear that! Last year I reconnected with a childhood buddy that had just taken up fly fishing. He was headed to the KLG the next day and wanted me to swing by and fish with him. I did walk down to find him, but sans fishing gear. He asked why I didn't plan to fish since he had the water all to himself and I explained the water temp thing to him. He had just never thought of that since he was so new to the sport, and he figured since he was a C&R angler that no fish would be harmed. He learned a good lesson that day, but it would be easy for an old-timer like me to see people practicing C&R when temps get over 70F and get pissed off. Sometimes they just don't know better.

And LU, I sent him to eat at your place last summer and he loved it. Must have been a fine order of fries. :D
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Re: C&R

Post by BiggerThomas » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:53 pm

I've been hitting some local ponds with my sons. God bless the bluegill. Tons of easy fun when the weather turns warm.
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Re: C&R

Post by CheeseburgerFly » Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:54 pm

Haha - I hear you. It's not malicious by any means, it's just that people do not know any better.

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Re: C&R

Post by Rusty Spinner » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:14 pm

CheeseburgerFly wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:54 pm
Haha - I hear you. It's not malicious by any means, it's just that people do not know any better.
Agreed, but I have also seen jerks start yelling at those anglers which is not helpful. Just have a polite conversation and inform them of the consequences of their actions and most will stop fishing on hot days. That said, another C&R practice I see in the Gorge and elsewhere in summer is guys that fish at 70F in the morning and justify that it "wasn't over 70" only to have that river warm up several more degrees on a hot day. That is just as bad as fishing in 72 degree water IMO.
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Re: C&R

Post by lightenup » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:26 pm

Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:14 pm
CheeseburgerFly wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:54 pm
Haha - I hear you. It's not malicious by any means, it's just that people do not know any better.
Agreed, but I have also seen jerks start yelling at those anglers which is not helpful. Just have a polite conversation and inform them of the consequences of their actions and most will stop fishing on hot days. That said, another C&R practice I see in the Gorge and elsewhere in summer is guys that fish at 70F in the morning and justify that it "wasn't over 70" only to have that river warm up several more degrees on a hot day. That is just as bad as fishing in 72 degree water IMO.
Just bring some ice water to revive 'em. Works every time.

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Re: C&R

Post by Jaybird » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:34 pm

I'm not going to count them but I'd say the over / under is 7 .5 anglers in the klg at 4:30 pm after the rivers been cooked all day.
And yes I've walked it in the evening on a hot day and guys are very impressed with themselves , can't figure out why it's not crowded

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Re: C&R

Post by martalus » Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:48 pm

Well, as the other threads indicate, it is a perfect time to transition to to smallie season! They will take large nymphs, streamers, dry flies, poppers, spinning lures, jigs, crank baits, stick bait, live bait, etc. Since they are found in moving water, it is almost like fishing for trout (I am not a big still water fan)

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Re: C&R

Post by Troutman » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:14 pm

I usually fish the upper Delaware this time of year. The water temps stay in the 50's ;) :lol:
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Re: C&R

Post by Rusty Spinner » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:34 pm

Troutman wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:14 pm
I usually fish the upper Delaware this time of year. The water temps stay in the 50's ;) :lol:
Don't count on that other than WB and upper EB. The Beaverkill is currently at 71.6F :shock:
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Re: C&R

Post by BiggerThomas » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:44 pm

lightenup wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:26 pm
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:14 pm
CheeseburgerFly wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:54 pm
Haha - I hear you. It's not malicious by any means, it's just that people do not know any better.
Agreed, but I have also seen jerks start yelling at those anglers which is not helpful. Just have a polite conversation and inform them of the consequences of their actions and most will stop fishing on hot days. That said, another C&R practice I see in the Gorge and elsewhere in summer is guys that fish at 70F in the morning and justify that it "wasn't over 70" only to have that river warm up several more degrees on a hot day. That is just as bad as fishing in 72 degree water IMO.
Just bring some ice water to revive 'em. Works every time.

Would the ice water be for the fish or the anglers? :lol:
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Re: C&R

Post by Troutman » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:50 pm

Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:34 pm
Troutman wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:14 pm
I usually fish the upper Delaware this time of year. The water temps stay in the 50's ;) :lol:
Don't count on that other than WB and upper EB. The Beaverkill is currently at 71.6F :shock:
The WB is where I temporary live in the summer fishing for trout ;) :lol: . Nothing below hales eddy for me ... :lol:
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Re: C&R

Post by Rusty Spinner » Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:21 am

Troutman wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:50 pm
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:34 pm
Troutman wrote:
Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:14 pm
I usually fish the upper Delaware this time of year. The water temps stay in the 50's ;) :lol:
Don't count on that other than WB and upper EB. The Beaverkill is currently at 71.6F :shock:
The WB is where I temporary live in the summer fishing for trout ;) :lol: . Nothing below hales eddy for me ... :lol:
I'll be up there tomorrow myself. Luckily, the entire 17 miles of the WBD below Cannonsville remains below 70F all year long, unlike the lower East.
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Re: C&R

Post by PortMurrayAng » Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:08 pm

Storms tomorrow. I am planning on going up too, but they're making me nervous...

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Re: C&R

Post by Jaybird » Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:34 pm

There is always something fishing just go

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Re: C&R

Post by PortMurrayAng » Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:02 pm

Jaybird wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:34 pm
There is always something fishing just go
Truer words... I just finished my 2nd sulphur. Going to tie coffin flies next, first try with these and I only have size 10 hooks.

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Re: C&R

Post by Rusty Spinner » Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:42 am

PortMurrayAng wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:02 pm
Jaybird wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:34 pm
There is always something fishing just go
Truer words... I just finished my 2nd sulphur. Going to tie coffin flies next, first try with these and I only have size 10 hooks.
Coffin flies not very important on the West. Green drakes prefer the East and upper mainstem over the West which has less silt. Drakes are burrowers. Storms already passed through up there. Flows jumping up, but not too bad it looks like.
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