Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
Hello anglers,
It is sad to say that my Green Simms wading-rain jacket is no longer water resistance. I have treated it many times with the stuff from simms to rejuvenate it. But It no loner works. So my guess it pretty worn out. So its time for a new 1. I was eyeing up a Simms G4 Pro jacket. But I also wanted to keep other options open. I keep hearing things that Simms is no longer what it used to be. Ive myself been using a pair of G4Z's for about 6 years now without issue. But its made in Montana. I was reading that some of the stuff is coming from overseas now. I really like the neoprene sleeves that keep the water out when raining and the occasion dipping of your hands into the river.
What do you guys & ladies have ? Have any recommendations ?
Thanks for always the positive comments
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It is sad to say that my Green Simms wading-rain jacket is no longer water resistance. I have treated it many times with the stuff from simms to rejuvenate it. But It no loner works. So my guess it pretty worn out. So its time for a new 1. I was eyeing up a Simms G4 Pro jacket. But I also wanted to keep other options open. I keep hearing things that Simms is no longer what it used to be. Ive myself been using a pair of G4Z's for about 6 years now without issue. But its made in Montana. I was reading that some of the stuff is coming from overseas now. I really like the neoprene sleeves that keep the water out when raining and the occasion dipping of your hands into the river.
What do you guys & ladies have ? Have any recommendations ?
Thanks for always the positive comments
PFA only
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Re: Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
A true "rain jacket" will be rubberized to fend off any and all rain. That's not what you are talking about, you're talking about Gortex which will hold off some rain, but will eventually get soaked through. Two different animals. I use Simms Guide jacket if there is a brief, light rain, and I use a Columbia rain coat if it is raining steadily. Rain gear does not "breath", so you get very warm wearing it and often too warm. But you stay dry. Gortext only lasts so long before it begins to wick moisture into the fabric.
That said, I am unaware of any changes Simms has made in where it manufactures what. My favorite jacket is my black Simms Guide Jacket which was made in China well over a decade ago.
That said, I am unaware of any changes Simms has made in where it manufactures what. My favorite jacket is my black Simms Guide Jacket which was made in China well over a decade ago.
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Re: Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
Buy stuff made for being out on a boat in the salt water. That's the jacket I have now blocks the rain great
Anything made by Grundens
Anything made by Grundens
Re: Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
Thank you for the education . I know what to look for nowRusty Spinner wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:12 amA true "rain jacket" will be rubberized to fend off any and all rain. That's not what you are talking about, you're talking about Gortex which will hold off some rain, but will eventually get soaked through. Two different animals. I use Simms Guide jacket if there is a brief, light rain, and I use a Columbia rain coat if it is raining steadily. Rain gear does not "breath", so you get very warm wearing it and often too warm. But you stay dry. Gortext only lasts so long before it begins to wick moisture into the fabric.
That said, I am unaware of any changes Simms has made in where it manufactures what. My favorite jacket is my black Simms Guide Jacket which was made in China well over a decade ago.
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Re: Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
Ive been advised by a few guys about that brand. I was thinking about the grundens buoy jacket. read great reviews on ittroutfishing4life wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:56 amBuy stuff made for being out on a boat in the salt water. That's the jacket I have now blocks the rain great
Anything made by Grundens
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The best rain coat I owned for fishing was made my Columbia and it was a "shorty version" because you are wearing chest waders and there is no need for a jacket to reach all the way down to your waist or lower. Mine finally wore out and I wasn't able to find another, so I have same brand, but regular length.
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Re: Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
I will show you the Grundens one I have and you will be buying one lolRusty Spinner wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 1:51 pmThe best rain coat I owned for fishing was made my Columbia and it was a "shorty version" because you are wearing chest waders and there is no need for a jacket to reach all the way down to your waist or lower. Mine finally wore out and I wasn't able to find another, so I have same brand, but regular length.
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I was curious why the Simms DWR treatment-wash no longer works. So I called Simms. Their explanation was the fabric is work out & it will no longer hold the DWR chemicals. I needed a new 1 .Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:12 amA true "rain jacket" will be rubberized to fend off any and all rain. That's not what you are talking about, you're talking about Gortex which will hold off some rain, but will eventually get soaked through. Two different animals. I use Simms Guide jacket if there is a brief, light rain, and I use a Columbia rain coat if it is raining steadily. Rain gear does not "breath", so you get very warm wearing it and often too warm. But you stay dry. Gortext only lasts so long before it begins to wick moisture into the fabric.
That said, I am unaware of any changes Simms has made in where it manufactures what. My favorite jacket is my black Simms Guide Jacket which was made in China well over a decade ago.
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Re: Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
Scotchgard will cure all your woes...thats all i use on rain gear and i have one vest style wader jacket like one mentioned above thats going on 20 yrsTroutman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:24 pmI was curious why the Simms DWR treatment-wash no longer works. So I called Simms. Their explanation was the fabric is work out & it will no longer hold the DWR chemicals. I needed a new 1 .Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:12 amA true "rain jacket" will be rubberized to fend off any and all rain. That's not what you are talking about, you're talking about Gortex which will hold off some rain, but will eventually get soaked through. Two different animals. I use Simms Guide jacket if there is a brief, light rain, and I use a Columbia rain coat if it is raining steadily. Rain gear does not "breath", so you get very warm wearing it and often too warm. But you stay dry. Gortext only lasts so long before it begins to wick moisture into the fabric.
That said, I am unaware of any changes Simms has made in where it manufactures what. My favorite jacket is my black Simms Guide Jacket which was made in China well over a decade ago.
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Re: Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
I have never, NEVER, had a DWR that couldn't be rejuvenated. My 20 year old reddington jacket still works fine (its the zipper that failed). Proper washing and rejuvenating does the trick every time. Here is what I use:
https://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/C ... tech-wash/
https://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/C ... -spray-on/
I disagree with Rusty regarding Gore-tex. It works well, and does breathe better than most waterproof fabrics. You do need to clean it at least once a season. The rubberized stuff will keep you dry, but it is heavy, and the coating breaks down over time. Especially if you keep it rolled up in the bottom of your pack.
Edited to add: https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice ... r-dwr.html
https://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/C ... tech-wash/
https://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/C ... -spray-on/
I disagree with Rusty regarding Gore-tex. It works well, and does breathe better than most waterproof fabrics. You do need to clean it at least once a season. The rubberized stuff will keep you dry, but it is heavy, and the coating breaks down over time. Especially if you keep it rolled up in the bottom of your pack.
Edited to add: https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice ... r-dwr.html
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Re: Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
GorTex = water resistant. Rubberized rain coat = waterproof. There is no opinion there. GorTex was never made to shed water all day, just for a short time. And GorTex is far heavier than a thin, rubberized raincoat.Bubba Zinetti wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:26 amI have never, NEVER, had a DWR that couldn't be rejuvenated. My 20 year old reddington jacket still works fine (its the zipper that failed). Proper washing and rejuvenating does the trick every time. Here is what I use:
https://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/C ... tech-wash/
https://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/C ... -spray-on/
I disagree with Rusty regarding Gore-tex. It works well, and does breathe better than most waterproof fabrics. You do need to clean it at least once a season. The rubberized stuff will keep you dry, but it is heavy, and the coating breaks down over time. Especially if you keep it rolled up in the bottom of your pack.
Edited to add: https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice ... r-dwr.html
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Re: Wading-rain Jacket recommendations
I don't want to get in a pissing contest, but Gore-tex is waterproof.Rusty Spinner wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:47 amGorTex = water resistant. Rubberized rain coat = waterproof. There is no opinion there. GorTex was never made to shed water all day, just for a short time. And GorTex is far heavier than a thin, rubberized raincoat.Bubba Zinetti wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:26 amI have never, NEVER, had a DWR that couldn't be rejuvenated. My 20 year old reddington jacket still works fine (its the zipper that failed). Proper washing and rejuvenating does the trick every time. Here is what I use:
https://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/C ... tech-wash/
https://www.nikwax.com/en-us/products/C ... -spray-on/
I disagree with Rusty regarding Gore-tex. It works well, and does breathe better than most waterproof fabrics. You do need to clean it at least once a season. The rubberized stuff will keep you dry, but it is heavy, and the coating breaks down over time. Especially if you keep it rolled up in the bottom of your pack.
Edited to add: https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice ... r-dwr.html
From the Wki
Here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore-TexGore-Tex is a waterproof, breathable fabric membrane and registered trademark of W. L. Gore & Associates. Invented in 1969, Gore-Tex can repel liquid water while allowing water vapor to pass through and is designed to be a lightweight, waterproof fabric for all-weather use. It is composed of stretched polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE), which is more commonly known by the generic trademark Teflon. The material is formally known as the generic term expanded PTFE (ePTFE).
Anecdote /= data, however, I have spent all day in driving rain in a gore-tex jacket and arrived home dry. Many times. The manufacture of gore-tex does produce some chemicals that are bad for the environment, but that is a different argument than gore-tex is not water proof.
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Oh so Gore Tex works in waders that we all use but not good for raincoats. Got it.
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Ive used the Simms stuff that washes & rejuvenate the jacket for years. But I dont treat every year thou. Maybe Ill try treating 1 last time before a purchase a new 1. To see what results it mite yield. But truthfully it has seen its better daysBubba Zinetti wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:26 amI have never, NEVER, had a DWR that couldn't be rejuvenated. My 20 year old reddington jacket still works fine (its the zipper that failed). Proper washing and rejuvenating does the trick every time.
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Put it in the dryer....does anyone read directions anymore?
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