SBR USGS gauge gets temp data

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SBR USGS gauge gets temp data

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Re: SBR USGS gauge gets temp data

Post by Rusty Spinner » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:50 am

If you wanted to fish the KLG No-Kill today, you would see quickly why that is a very bad idea, assuming it still has many trout at all after this summer when temps neared 80F.
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Post by martalus » Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:29 pm

Definitely agree that it would be bad to fish with those water temps. Do you know at what depth they take the water temp at the guage? You can see why trout in the gorge area would be desperate to find a spring/seep or a deep shady pool to survive. I remember there being fish kills in Califon from time to time, but are there ever large scale fish kills due to high water temps in the gorge?

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Re: SBR USGS gauge gets temp data

Post by Johnw » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:07 pm

Would .7 miles upstream from the Lake Solitude dam put the gauge in the Club water?

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Post by lightenup » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:31 pm

We can see how the coming rains will affect the temps...

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Post by Rusty Spinner » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:27 am

Johnw wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:07 pm
Would .7 miles upstream from the Lake Solitude dam put the gauge in the Club water?
martalus wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:29 pm
Definitely agree that it would be bad to fish with those water temps. Do you know at what depth they take the water temp at the guage? You can see why trout in the gorge area would be desperate to find a spring/seep or a deep shady pool to survive. I remember there being fish kills in Califon from time to time, but are there ever large scale fish kills due to high water temps in the gorge?
Yes, the USGS gauge lies within the Solitude Fishing Club well above the Solitude dam which is still very much the Ken Lockwood Gorge section of the river. It lies in a very shaded pool in fairly deep water and is shaded all day. The club saw water temps during their river restoration project the least couple of weeks that hit lethal temps of 80 degrees F and they found some dead fish.
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Re: SBR USGS gauge gets temp data

Post by martalus » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:42 am

Thankfully, it looks like you are getting some good rain now and temps are coming down. Perhaps not low enough for trout fishing, but hopefully below the lethal levels.

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Post by martalus » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:25 pm

Flows crested at near 3,000 CFS, the max for the date had been just shy of 600. Water Temps are down to about 72 and air temps will be down to the low 60s for a few nights. Probably still still to high for fishing, but at least will be better for the trout with all that water and lower temps.

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Post by martalus » Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:03 pm

Water temp now down to about 68.

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Post by lightenup » Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:27 pm

And up over 70 already...it happens quickly. Warms quicker than it cools it seems.

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Post by Rusty Spinner » Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:04 pm

I think the real shock will come when the KLG is well below 70F even on hotter days and anglers get back in there to realize they aren't catching very many trout. It hit 80F this summer and lethal for most trout species is 79.5 degrees. Agust used to post about this often, that the KLG is on the lower end of year round trout and we will lose nearly 100% of trout in the No-kill in some years. This is one of those years. The wild browns likely moved upstream to find thermal relief and many will drop back down, but forget about the finless Pequest mutants. They were toast this summer.
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Re: SBR USGS gauge gets temp data

Post by Fishybig » Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:55 pm

While a gr8 addition, I think the temp gauge is a double edge sword....it may make guys more complacent, where they'll say , the web site said it was 69 and fish it a couple hours later when it's in the mid to low 70s....instead of actual taking a temp stream side and more than once like we all should strive to do.......I personally dont fish if it's over 68, just my preference not a rule....

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Post by BiggerThomas » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:53 pm

lightenup wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:27 pm
And up over 70 already...it happens quickly. Warms quicker than it cools it seems.
You will see this concept applies to many natural things, people included.
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Post by Rusty Spinner » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:03 am

BiggerThomas wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:53 pm
lightenup wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:27 pm
And up over 70 already...it happens quickly. Warms quicker than it cools it seems.
You will see this concept applies to many natural things, people included.
I see you haven't met my wife.
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Re: SBR USGS gauge gets temp data

Post by lightenup » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:08 am

Rusty Spinner wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:03 am
BiggerThomas wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:53 pm
lightenup wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:27 pm
And up over 70 already...it happens quickly. Warms quicker than it cools it seems.
You will see this concept applies to many natural things, people included.
I see you haven't met my wife.
Lol.that rule applies to all wives my friend.

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Re: SBR USGS gauge gets temp data

Post by martalus » Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:59 am

lightenup wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:08 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:03 am
BiggerThomas wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:53 pm


You will see this concept applies to many natural things, people included.
I see you haven't met my wife.
Lol.that rule applies to all wives my friend.

Don't I know it....10 seconds to get in the doghouse, days to get out of it...

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Re: SBR USGS gauge gets temp data

Post by BiggerThomas » Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:07 pm

martalus wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:59 am
lightenup wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:08 am
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:03 am


I see you haven't met my wife.
Lol.that rule applies to all wives my friend.

Don't I know it....10 seconds to get in the doghouse, days to get out of it...
Isn't this consistent with warming quickly and cooling slowly?
Every Night & every Morn
Some to Misery are Born
Every Morn and every Night
Some are Born to sweet delight
Some are Born to sweet delight
Some are Born to Endless Night
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