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Re: Water Temps

Post by 46er » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:29 am

May be getting a lot of water over the next couple of days.

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Re: Water Temps

Post by Rusty Spinner » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:45 am

Looks like some much needed rain is headed our way for certain. My guess is limited flooding for most trout streams, but plenty in low lying areas and along the coast. Time to make sure the generator fires right up....
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Re: Water Temps

Post by martalus » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:47 am

It is interesting to see that they added a temperature guage on the SBR-the guage, which is .7 miles above the Lake Solitude dam has been showing temps between 69-78 degrees over the past few days. I am not sure at what depth the gauge is located, but those temps seem to be the upward limit for trout surviving (without adding fishing to the mix). Is this guage in the gorge area or just below it? You can see why trout are really looking for seeps, springs, mouths of coldwater tribs, as well as shady deep pools to survive those temps.

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Re: Water Temps

Post by 46er » Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:49 pm

Rusty Spinner wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:45 am
Looks like some much needed rain is headed our way for certain. My guess is limited flooding for most trout streams, but plenty in low lying areas and along the coast. Time to make sure the generator fires right up....
NWS is saying very little rain here on the coast, but they have said that before on many occasions. ;)
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Re: Water Temps

Post by BiggerThomas » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:58 am

46er wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:45 am
Looks like some much needed rain is headed our way for certain. My guess is limited flooding for most trout streams, but plenty in low lying areas and along the coast. Time to make sure the generator fires right up....
NWS is saying very little rain here on the coast, but they have said that before on many occasions. ;)
The major rain line is holding just west of central NJ. Easter PA will get hammered. But hopefully central NJ should see some rain from the tail end of the tropical storm.
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Re: Water Temps

Post by Rusty Spinner » Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:00 am

Looking at the long term forecast and daytime highs are dropping this week and nighttime temps to hit 60s and even down to upper 50s later this week into next. That seems to be the new norm - Summer starts by June 1 but ends or starts to by mid August. We still need rain, though....
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Re: Water Temps

Post by lightenup » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:11 pm

Rusty Spinner wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:00 am
Looking at the long term forecast and daytime highs are dropping this week and nighttime temps to hit 60s and even down to upper 50s later this week into next. That seems to be the new norm - Summer starts by June 1 but ends or starts to by mid August. We still need rain, though....
SBR got down to almost 64 last night. Up to 70 by 2:30 ....warms quickly, cools slowly..

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Re: Water Temps

Post by Rusty Spinner » Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:18 am

lightenup wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:11 pm
Rusty Spinner wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:00 am
Looking at the long term forecast and daytime highs are dropping this week and nighttime temps to hit 60s and even down to upper 50s later this week into next. That seems to be the new norm - Summer starts by June 1 but ends or starts to by mid August. We still need rain, though....
SBR got down to almost 64 last night. Up to 70 by 2:30 ....warms quickly, cools slowly..
Low flows exacerbate that climb right now. We need a lot of rain over a long period of time yet again....but good to see it dip to 64 at least.
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Re: Water Temps

Post by BiggerThomas » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:18 am

At least where I live, next week's temps look like they're inching back up into the 87-88 range during the day. But some of these cool mornings with low dew points (50s) have been delightful.

I also looked at NJ's drought map which says the state is in a green "normal' range. Do normal water levels for rivers diverge from what counts as drought for the soil? We are well over normal precip rates for the last 90 days, and mostly normal for the last 365 days. Here is a link to the NJ Drought Info site:

https://www.state.nj.us/dep/drought/
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Re: Water Temps

Post by Drossi » Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:10 pm

BiggerThomas wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:18 am
At least where I live, next week's temps look like they're inching back up into the 87-88 range during the day. But some of these cool mornings with low dew points (50s) have been delightful.

I also looked at NJ's drought map which says the state is in a green "normal' range. Do normal water levels for rivers diverge from what counts as drought for the soil? We are well over normal precip rates for the last 90 days, and mostly normal for the last 365 days. Here is a link to the NJ Drought Info site:

https://www.state.nj.us/dep/drought/
A big impact on our spring fed freestone streams isn't just lack of rain but also well water usage draining down the aquifers. IMHO the Musky, SBR, and even Pequest have lost recharging ground water to additional water needs due to many more sub-divisions and developments over the past 40 years. So yes the drought map may be normal per rainfall indicators but our streams aren't indicative of that.
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Re: Water Temps

Post by lightenup » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:40 pm

Drossi wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:10 pm
BiggerThomas wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:18 am
At least where I live, next week's temps look like they're inching back up into the 87-88 range during the day. But some of these cool mornings with low dew points (50s) have been delightful.

I also looked at NJ's drought map which says the state is in a green "normal' range. Do normal water levels for rivers diverge from what counts as drought for the soil? We are well over normal precip rates for the last 90 days, and mostly normal for the last 365 days. Here is a link to the NJ Drought Info site:

https://www.state.nj.us/dep/drought/
A big impact on our spring fed freestone streams isn't just lack of rain but also well water usage draining down the aquifers. IMHO the Musky, SBR, and even Pequest have lost recharging ground water to additional water needs due to many more sub-divisions and developments over the past 40 years. So yes the drought map may be normal per rainfall indicators but our streams aren't indicative of that.
That's a great point. I wonder if there ever was a study done. It wouldn't be too hard to track well water usage in a watershed provided that info is public?

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Re: Water Temps

Post by Drossi » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:08 pm

lightenup wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:40 pm
Drossi wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:10 pm
BiggerThomas wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:18 am
At least where I live, next week's temps look like they're inching back up into the 87-88 range during the day. But some of these cool mornings with low dew points (50s) have been delightful.

I also looked at NJ's drought map which says the state is in a green "normal' range. Do normal water levels for rivers diverge from what counts as drought for the soil? We are well over normal precip rates for the last 90 days, and mostly normal for the last 365 days. Here is a link to the NJ Drought Info site:

https://www.state.nj.us/dep/drought/
A big impact on our spring fed freestone streams isn't just lack of rain but also well water usage draining down the aquifers. IMHO the Musky, SBR, and even Pequest have lost recharging ground water to additional water needs due to many more sub-divisions and developments over the past 40 years. So yes the drought map may be normal per rainfall indicators but our streams aren't indicative of that.
That's a great point. I wonder if there ever was a study done. It wouldn't be too hard to track well water usage in a watershed provided that info is public?
I'm sure there were and I'm sure we'll never see it publicly. The construction lobby is powerful in this state, right up there with the NJEA.
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Re: Water Temps

Post by Razorbacker » Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:57 pm

Drossi wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:10 pm
BiggerThomas wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:18 am
At least where I live, next week's temps look like they're inching back up into the 87-88 range during the day. But some of these cool mornings with low dew points (50s) have been delightful.

I also looked at NJ's drought map which says the state is in a green "normal' range. Do normal water levels for rivers diverge from what counts as drought for the soil? We are well over normal precip rates for the last 90 days, and mostly normal for the last 365 days. Here is a link to the NJ Drought Info site:

https://www.state.nj.us/dep/drought/
A big impact on our spring fed freestone streams isn't just lack of rain but also well water usage draining down the aquifers. IMHO the Musky, SBR, and even Pequest have lost recharging ground water to additional water needs due to many more sub-divisions and developments over the past 40 years. So yes the drought map may be normal per rainfall indicators but our streams aren't indicative of that.
that IS an awesome point. I never thought of that, but undoubtedly suburban spread has taken its toll. The NJ Highlands Act came too late, as I think the genie is out of the bottle.

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Re: Water Temps

Post by dbarr15 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:04 am

Water temps are back up and river is down. Need some rain and some cool nights. I got 2 early morning outings last week when water was down to 62-64.
Back on hold for a while.

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